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Post by Oriol FM on Aug 6, 2014 22:36:29 GMT 8
Dr. Combs smiles at Bazl.
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Post by natahem on Aug 7, 2014 9:57:15 GMT 8
Ash nodded.
"I guess that's the best plan we have now. Once we could identify one, or more, of the 4th generation, it should be easier to follow them to reach the previous generations.Of course, we have to be very carreful that they do not suspect us. Meaning that military and inquisition should stay in shadow while you conduct the false immunization program, but be ready to track any suspect. How fast can you detect an hybrid this way? I mean, can you clearly identify it before he leaves the hospital?"
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Post by senorsomething on Aug 7, 2014 11:44:36 GMT 8
Bazl blinks, stunned that they even listened to her- a random, rule-breaking stowaway scum, and even more stunned that her weak idea had any merit. Bolstered by the tiny bit of success, she bravely plunges ahead with her ideas.
"I don't think the military can sit it out, Ash," she ventures, quietly. "A wide scale immunization of hive-scale proportions would need every able body to help spread the news, round up the lower hive levels, and help maintain calm at every medical facility- and likely, every make-shift facility. Hospitals aren't built big enough to allow for everyone to visit within days. We'll have to set up temporary 'vaccination' centers and probably remake some security vans into traveling mobile 'immunization' units- any positively identified hybrids can be labled as showing "progressive' signs of the disease (or whatever we're calling the need for this immunization) and forcefully detained in the secure unit to be transferred to the hospital (that is, a security center where we can handle the hybrids) for treatment. There needs to be a sense of urgency and news generated all over the hive, to bring in as many people as possible. But we have to know that a lot of these alien things will be suspicious, so we're naturally going to have to go to them- under the pretense of merciful traveling med units-to round up as many more as possible. And perhaps we can implement further technology, besides the tracking chips... we'll have people mobilizing all over the hive, its a good time to work on an intensive information network. And we can check pregnant women for any abnormalities in a fetus under the guise of worrying how this 'disease' may affect the child...."
She stops, realizing that she's probably overstepped in saying so much to people with so much more training and expertise than herself. She takes a deep a breath and lets it out slowly. "Er... I mean. If you think its useful, Sir, Ma'am," she mutters, and looks down again. Grunts aren't supposed to do much talking and she was talking a damn lot for a dumb scum. Hopefully they wouldn't mind her overstepping her place. She hunched a bit, mentally urging the others to speak up quickly and cover her.
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Post by natahem on Aug 7, 2014 17:10:49 GMT 8
"Well, if it needs such organisation, maybe we can start with the high-born and high level citizen first, those who could have influence and be targeted by the Pyranids. It wouldn't look suspicious that they are the first to be protected against an "unknown desease". And we could easily check who show up for the vaccination, and who among them avoid to show. Then we could have possible leads to who can be a hybrids, and follow them. But maybe there won't be any hybrid among them. In that case, we could extend the plan to the whole population. "
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Post by Oriol FM on Aug 7, 2014 22:05:28 GMT 8
Justicar Jonas smiles mischievously when Bazl intervenes, then is visibly satisfied with Ash's words.
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Post by natahem on Aug 8, 2014 9:02:41 GMT 8
"You may tell them that you suspect the rebels will try to use a new form of virus to affect the roots of your society, and so you'd like to perform some preventive tests and vaccination. This is actually not completely a lie. And if they ask how you can know about that, the Doctor here can attest that he found a strange virus on a body, and you are concerned if it's a single case or if it's already spreading among the people. Once again, it's not exactly a lie, even if you don't say the whole truth."
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Post by Oriol FM on Aug 8, 2014 11:53:26 GMT 8
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Post by natahem on Aug 8, 2014 15:29:27 GMT 8
"What if just pretending that you found a suspect case of infection on a body, and you fear it could have infect other people in the hive? We don't have to say officially it has anything to do with the rebelion, but just make it sound as a health "emergency"."
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Post by Dennis on Aug 9, 2014 14:04:12 GMT 8
Leitbec pointed at the body in the examination room.
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Post by Oriol FM on Aug 9, 2014 14:22:32 GMT 8
Seeing some puzzled stares, he clarifies:
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Post by Oriol FM on Aug 9, 2014 14:41:16 GMT 8
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Post by natahem on Aug 9, 2014 20:10:40 GMT 8
"So, while everything is being organised, we can have some rest. And, Justicar, I would apreciate if I could get some room to rest far from the Our Holiness. I mean, I would feel more comfortable if I'm sure his servants are not continually watching my back to check I deserve to burn or not... I suppose my... comrades are feeling the same way. And it would be easier to be close to your headquarter, if we have to organise our plans and gather some equipement."
He paused a few seconds, and after a little hesitation, he added:
"And you have to show me where I can refill my cup of coffee."
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Post by nathanjames on Aug 11, 2014 0:57:23 GMT 8
Titus was busily taking notes on his data slate during this entire exchange, trying to keep his head around the issue at hand and the implications. If he had heard correctly, there were a few key points he'd need to take with him: [/i][li] There were two psychic controllers that they needed to worry about, separately: a purebreed patriarch, and a human-looking magus (who should look in his or her teens).[/li]
[li] The "thralls" were likely in crucial positions inside the planetary government or armed forces. These could take the form of either infected or enthralled humans, though the infected would be easier to identify.[/li]
[li] The initial tyrannid would have had to be smuggled in numbers onto the planet. Which implied assistance from those in authority, 24 years ago.[/li]
[li] Speaking of which, the Justicar's predecessor died in an operation combating smuggling, 24 years ago. The files concerning that case could be most helpful.[/li]
[li] Seizing the Adeptus Astra Telepathica would be a good preventative, though plans using the psykers had not been formulated yet.[/li]
[li] The St. Sebastian hive APPARENTLY did not contain the patriarch, as the revolution had begun with the majority of tyrannid forces, in the other enemy-controlled hives. (Titus was not ready to assume the same for the magus, who was fourth generation and human-looking.)[/li]
[li] The quickest plan for flushing out leads seemed to be a combination of a fake "immunization" program, combined with ID tags. The group would start from the top-down of St. Sebastian, since thralls were aiming for the top anyway.[/li] [/ul] After reviewing his list, Titus stood up to begin his own preparations. "This plan of forced medical exams under pretense seems as good as any to get our ball rolling. I particularly like the focus on top-down, as I have learned from personal experience that the most dangerous foes are the ones you trust the most.
"Justicar, you mentioned sealed case files on an operation versus smuggling over two decades ago? With what we've discussed so far, I think what's in those files could be very helpful indeed. It might give us an important lead, or even a name or two.
"Finally, I know we're all going to want some more appropriate gear for combating tyrannid, especially any purebreed we encounter. I've made a quick list of useful equipment for this mission. I'm aware that not all may be readily available. If you could give me an idea of what the hive is likely to have, or where I can go to hunt down a few of the rarer items, I would be most appreciative."Titus tried to smile as pleasantly as he could, as he handed the slate with his...rather sizable shopping list to the justicar:
- New Mechadentrite: Optical, Medical, Utility
- Flamer + ammo (scarce) or Hand Flamer + ammo (rare)
- Shotgun + ammo (regular, pump, or combat) (common to scarce)
- Inferno shells for shotgun (rare)
- Red-dot Laser sight (scarce)
- Exterminator (any quantity) (common)
- Hand grenades (any and all types) (plentiful to rare)
- Better armor (whatever is reasonably acquirable)
- Respirator/Gas Mask (current Adeptus Mechanicus mask only gives +20 vs. poison, whereas a new one would give +30) (average)
- De-Tox (rare)
- Medikit(s) (common)
- SACRED MACHINE OIL (very rare)
- Auspex/Scanner (scarce)
- Combi-Tool (rare)
- Grapnel (common)
- Lascutter (average)
- Magnoculars (average)
- Manacles (plentiful)
Titus honestly did not expect to be able to acquire more than a fraction of what was on his wish-list. However, all items were items he knew he could find a use for, and were worth picking up when the opportunity arose. Plus, it was better to ask than to stay silent, and the justicar would know best where to start.
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Post by Oriol FM on Aug 20, 2014 14:18:43 GMT 8
Justicar Jonas salutes all of you and leaves the room, followed by Colonel Mortz. Dr. Combs sits at his table, and begins taking out piles of orange forms labeled "Hive Medical Emergency Protocol - R90723".
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